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    Posted: January 16 2008 at 6:57pm

As you know, the WBC has approved a year of testing of the Super Fly High for Standings List tournaments.  At the end of that period, they are going to gather feedback from each of the federations and make a determination if it will become a permanent tournament fixture. 

The ABC would like to hear your informed feedback from tournaments you have attended as a skier/ judge/ driver/ organizer regarding the Super Fly High in actual competitions.  This topic is NOT for your opinion of it outside of actual tournament experience.  There are other topics for that.
 
So, throughout this tournament season, please post your comments here.  What did you think of it as an official or a skier?  What drawbacks did you see?  What benefits to the tournament did you see?  Do you think it should be approved as a permanent fixture?
 
Remember, only actual tournament experiences go here.  The ABC board wants to here your feedback.  Thanks in advance!
 
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Dan,
 
I would like all tournament organizers to track some data. Maybe I will create a standard spreadsheet template for that.
 
# of skiers in event (tricks, Slalom, Jump),
# pulls on Low, Extended, SFH
 
Maybe some other fields too.
 
Good to get general feedback too, but the numbers will give us some great feedback. ...and they normally don't argue with you.
 
This sort of thing:
 
Tournament Name Country # Trick Pulls # Tricks pulls # Trick Pulls # Trick Pulls # Slalom pulls # Slalom pulls # Slalom pulls # Jumpers # Jumpers # Jumpers
      Low Pole Extended Ht. SFH Test Height Low Pole Extended Ht. SFH Test Height Low Pole Extended Ht. SFH Test Height
                       
                       
 
  
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Richard,  Yep, that's good too. 
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I wouldn't mind hearing about how many PBs are set on the SFH as well.
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Here is another idea for that as well as I think that is all great.  Those that ski it it might be the first time they try it or not.  Now why don't we have a spot that people who ski it can put what they feel like it on it as well.
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Eric, that is exactly what this topic is for.  For the skiers and officials to say what they think after they ski it at a tournament.
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Laurel Lake Skier, this topic is only for feedback AFTER someone has skied one at a tournament.  Please  feel free to post other type comments on the other topic.  I'll move other comments to that topic so I we can keep this one strictly for tournament experiences by officials, skiers, and LOC. 
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summer is well and truley over her in OZ. not much chance of ice getting on the lakes at Mulwala, but the water temp down to 18 celsius. You do the math.  i haven't heard of too many tournaments with the SFH, so can't report on whats the go. Perhaps someone else in OZ can fill you in.
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There have been no tournaments in Australia using the SFH. There are 2 SFH's I believe in Australia. We had one at the Nationals where skiers could try them out if they liked  after the end of the Championships. Some 10-15 (out of the 80 skiing) skiers I believe tried it and came back with mixed results about the use in tournaments but they did think they were a great learning or training aid. Based on that feedback we aren't looking to introduce them here any time soon for tournaments.
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It seems to me that only the skiers that have used the SFH are the ones interested in having at the Nationals.
 
Does anyone really feel that a skier who pays the 100 + entry fee, and travel costs will come to nationals to test out the SFH? I highly doubt it.
 
How then can we expect to get ample feedback from this event?
 
I think it is wiser to have it available for use in the State and regional tournaments both as a tournament choice as well as setting aside a trial/test time at each of these events for the skiers that choose to try one out. Any skier who skis Nats. has to ski regionals, so they should have an opinion, if they wish. I will have a questionaire on site at the WI/ILL open for feedback. I also am setting aside at least one hour for skiers interested in trying it out.
WE are expecting anywhere between 45-50 skiers, so we should have something to go on.
 
To assume that most skiers, given 2 months notice, will have enough time or access to one is ridiculous.
 
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Yes, I do beleive there would be people coming in cold on the SFH. I bet you would see almost all jumpers - Conventional style use it.   Likley you would see half the inverted guys go for it also.  It would take about 200 feet of the run up to the ramp on the first jump to get use to it and be totally pump up about it.
 
In tricks you would likley not see as much first time use, I agree.  Same in Slalom.
 
However, do you have your Mens 3, or Mens 4 Hat on...you know, the one that has a rule book wallpapered to it with arguements ready for the slightest possibility?
 
Or do you have your Little Johnny's first Nationals hat on, and his run being the Front deep....maybe a wave...sit stand....  Little Johnny would likley go in cold on that thing. Suzy too..... Might even see their parents or GRAND PARENTS go in cold on the SFH.
 
What is the harm in simply allowing this for all if they want?  Give me some downside that is NOT simply ..."well not everyone has access to one".  Not everyone has access to the boats that will be pulling the event either.  I ski a 1998 Flightcraft. I bet non of those will be there.  Same goes for the ramps, ropes, handles, docks,
 
Let it be used and let the chips fall as they may...........
 
 
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Richard,
 
I have the I really don't care one way or the other hat on. I do agree with your jump assessment. I am simply echoing the feelings of the MANY skiers I have talked to about this.
 
It's quite obvious it's coming whether we like it or not. I hear it's a good thing. I also hear from people that simply don't like it... Again, it's a little over 50-50 in favor of. I am also thinking along the same lines of Andy Harris. That is, it's one more option alot of people can't afford. With gas prices what they are and the economy what it is, there are alot of people who can't afford one... including myself. And I'm a BI dealer.
 
I, like Lane have the same priorities. God and family first. This means I refuse to jeapordize the good will of my family to spend a large chunk of change on a SFH. I'm 44 years old, I to will walk away, but not when I feel I can't use one, I will walk away when I feel I have to(use one that is). At least for Tricks and Slalom. Jump makes no difference to me because I can't seem to convince my brain that inverted is ok... I won't die if I let it happen.
 
You can't compare boats to an attachment. That argument is weak. By the way, having a 1998 flighty is not by any means a hindrance. The second best wake ever, in my opinion.
Tournament boats, whether they be a barefoot nautique, flighty, 200, sportster, or Sanger are alot more available for use than an SFH.
 
Have a great evening
 
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Kenny,
 
I am going to mark you down in my SFH Poll as an "Against".  Quite obvious you are not for it being used in tournaments.
 
Will anyone else with this feeling...like the people you mention that simply do not like it please let me know. The more people involved in this feedback the better.
 
My survey has three colums.
 
1. Have you tried a SFH
2./ Do you own one
3./ Are you for or against the trial of the SFH in tournaments (World Standings List events)
 
 
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Also, I need to know if you have tried the SFH.
 
 
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BY THE WAY:
 
I do not own one. Have skied two passes on one last year. If I was going to a tournament next weekend I would be requesting the rope go SFH.......
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Richard,
 
I'm not going to sit on this forum and argue back and forth. You can put me down for whatever you wish. If I once said I was against it's use in tournaments, please show me.
I RUN the WI/ILL event. I'm allowing it! I'm polling it! Iam the exec midwest dir. and am requesting the LOC to allow it at the regionals! I am in liason with a skier who has one, to provide it at both events. This in addition to the one Blake has. BTW: The skier I am referring to bought one, not because he wants one, but because he feels he needs to in order to compete.
 
 I don't know you but have heard alot about you and all the work you've done for the sport. I too have spent countless hours and my own personal expenses to  both aid and better this sport. I'm all about barefooting, and it's best interest.PLEASE don't question my intentions or motives. You don't know it, because you don't know me, but it's un- warranted.
 
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Hey, 
 
Problem with typing instead of speaking in person. I was not questioning you are even debating.
 
I am simply interested in gathering as muchy data as possible....answers to the three questions I have posted above.  ANYONE can e-mail me their Yes or No answers.
 
 
 
Please do the same yourself. Sorry for giving you the wrong impression.
 
1./ Have you tried the SFH
2./ Do you own a SFH
3./ Are you in favor of the Test period
 
 
 
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Thanks Richard, I've contacted 6 already and will work on the rest when I can.
 
Thanks again
 
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You have a valid point about people probably not using it for the first time for a tournament like Nats... I know I would ski like I trained... And some people ski on Sangers and I hope they get to ski a Sanger at Nats.. The same for Malibu.. and a SFH... Those that dont want to use dont have to use it...
 
John Pennay skis 9000 point trick runs and wakes 19's on the LOW POLE.. Thats how he trains and thats what he would choose at any tournament... So for those who want low.. My advice is go low.. That same for any other attachemtn height... The skier chooses already... Why is everybody acting like they are being forced to do something they dont want to do???
 
Your friend who bought one because he felt he has to have it to be competitive.. Tell him to call Johnny Pennay and tell Johnny that you cant be competitive on the low pole.. Johnny will tell him that he cant be conmpetitive without TRAINING HARD... KK you know what it takes.. And we both know it aint about where the rope is tied to the boat...
 
I am glad/thankful that you have an open mind and are trying to allow skier access to try it before NAts..
 
One question tugs at me.. You say you have talked to skiers who justy dont like it.. Have they tried it??? Most of this reminds me of a kid who wont eat his vegetables.. Why not??? because they are green.. They never tried them but they know they wont like them.. I know I didnt want to eat my vegetables... After a few years I found out how good they were and now I eat them first.. But before I tried them, before I took the predisposition out of my mind and actually gave them a chance, they were the devils work and I was not gonna eat them....
 
Hey man are you coming to NZ in January??? The way you ski you can do some damage and take home some hardware.... Hard to beat the feeling of skiing for your country..
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Just a reminder, if the SFH is available at Nationals (or any tournament), this does not take away the ability for anybody to ski low or mid; it just gives more options to the skiers. If you don't like skiing up 'high,' then don't. 
 
I'm sure the SFH will be approved by the WBC sometime in the future because there is no 'logical' argument to prohibit a device the makes barefooting more enjoyable and safer.
 
I'm also confident that those of you who are against the SFH it will use it in a tournament for jumping; if not, then you are allowing your ego to drive your skiing.
 
As for me and my house, we will ski the SFH in all jump events...
 
P.S. Remember this is an 'option' not a requirement for both the skiers and the tournament directors.


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Foot,
 
Thanks, I always enjoy reading your posts.
 
I do plan on cotinuing on the extended pull, unless, like I wrote, I can get my head out of my arse and go inverted like I know I can. Then and only then will I use the sfh for jump. No egos here Mike, I'm too old for that.
 
To answer your question Foot, yes I do know people who have used it that don't like it. Most feel that in order to stay competitive they must use it if that's the direction we're headed, which it appears we are. I'm not one of those. I'm completely for what the skiing community decides is best. I just hope that everyone gets a voice and it's considered equally.
 
I also know skiers that do like it, so right now it's a wash.
 
Also, I'm thinking future... stay with me here, it may be far fetched, but at least in the midwest this could be a legitimate concern in the near future. Here it is: The promo program is going by the wayside. Nobody's buying new anymore. And to tell you the truth I can't blame them. Heck, GM just closed a plant near my home costing 2500 people their jobs.
Anyway, my point is with no program and older model boats likely being used in the future, what happens when that 1998 flighty shows up and half the skiers want to be pulled from the clouds?? Is their a 14 ft extension being manufactured as we speak?? Because you ain't puttin' a redneck on my boat at a tournament. I smell liability in a big way.
 
BTW: I've read a couple books by Bart Ehrman. Jesus misquoted and lost scriptures-the gospels that did'nt make it into the new testament... Interesting stuff.
 
About NZ: Unfortunately no, unless someone drops about 10 grand in my lap. Geeez plane fare is huge to that joint.
 
Take care and don't stay away so long ( on the forum that is)
 
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Thanks for the reading list.. Will AMazon that ASAP....
Yes it aint a cheap trip but its a TRIP OF A LIFETIME..... When youve lost everything in the flood and tornado you will still have that experience... Money comes and goes.. They printy the stuff everyday in a lot of different places.. You will get your share when you get back....Opportunity only knocks a few times and then goes to knock on somebody elses door... DONT MISS THIS ONE....Brother I've chased this stuff all over the world with no more than $2 in my pocket when I got there and somebody ALWAYS takes care of a friendly ski bum.... The other side of the coin is your house becomes a backpacker hostel for the people who fed you and let you have the couch for a week... And thats a great deal as well... How many friends do you have in NZ right now.. Come down and by next Feb you will have a bunch... YOU CAN DO THIS... Tighten the belt and buy that ticket... I will find you a place to stay.... AND guarantee you the best time of your life...
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Nice offer for Kenny, Foot. Just one more example of why this sport and the people in are second to none!
 
Kenny, you don't have to drain your own bank account to get to NZ. There is plenty of time to go off and solicit sponsors to help you in your quest to get to NZ. I didn't necessarily infer your own personal time as you might be scoffing at my comment. I suggest you train hard and go after corporate and individual sponsors to get your butt Down Under to represent the USA. The Elite and Junior Teams don't drain their bank accounts to get to a Worlds...talk to a Rachel George Normand, Malerie Bacon's mom, or Al Morrison and they can tell you stories about walking into a Walmart or a McDonalds and coming out with a fist full of corporate sponsorship cash to get them on a plane to attend a World Championship.
 
Same is true of the Super Fly High...I'm not ready to write a check out of my own bank account to put a tower and SFH on my DXII, but if I see the guys who are currently skiing at the same level I am start to pull away from me with their scores, I'll be convinced that SFH has credibility and really works. At that point, I'll be panhandling to get one...maybe you will see sponsorship ads hanging from my tower, maybe I'll set up a blackjack table at Regionals and have the "house" buy one, maybe I'll do 50/50 raffles at all the tournaments so the LOC can buy one for use at ALL tourneys, maybe I will crush aluminum cans and use the recycling proceeds to purchase one, maybe I will have a garage sale to get rid of all the crap in my house and garage and buy one, maybe I'll teach footn' clinics and use the proceeds to buy one....my point is, there is a dollar under every rock and if you want a SFH, you can find a way to get one without taking away from the family bank account. If you want one bad enough, you will find a way. Same goes towards finding yourself in NZ in 2009. I wish everyone all the best in fulfilling their wants and dreams!


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Hey Gus,

 
Thanks, all this inspiration is wanting me to make it happen. I have 2 major hurdles.
1., and the most important is convincing my wife. You see, buying a ticket does'nt mean buying one, it means buying 3. The last time I checked( about 12 hours ago) that would cost me 9000.00 just to fly there. That's alot of Walmarts brother...tons of cans as well.
2. I live in Wisconsin. Training into January would require an ice breaker and someone willing to tow me behind my snowmobile. Traveling to Fla. every other weekend is simply not an option. Too much work to be done... like pay for my house.... And my Sanger.
25 years ago it would be a no-brainer, but that was then and this is now.... You don't have 10 grand I could have, do you.... anyone?
 
As for the SFH, if I'm crushing cans and having garage sales, it's to finance my new kitchen.
I'm perfectly content with where I'm at, but thanks.
 
Are you coming to WI/ILL??
 
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Kenny,
 
How about you make the trip solo. Get the cheapest flight, Stay in the bunk houses (nice), bum beers off the Canadians (easy).
 
Save $ 7000 off the family trip and put that towards say a trip to Disney in the spring....Stay at the Lake Roy Resort right on the water...hey, why not bring the boat down for that :)
 
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Kenny, I understand your position. Blake is going to run the next Worlds right of Sconny and you'll still be on top of your game.
 
Yes, I am coming to WI/IL! I had such a blast last year I can't pass it up! I'll PM or call you to see if you need help with getting anything set up or rolling for that gig!
 
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The next Worlds (2010) will be in Germany.
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And that one I am planning for. I can train at home right up to it, then fly in for about half the cost of NZ. Of course that's at present fares.
 
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perhaps we should open another discussion on why those from north won't come south for a worlds, but expect us to go north???..... ie Mulwala and Whitbank!!!
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Hi Pete, the difficulty and expense of getting there and the opposite seasons make it a challenge both ways as you know. I just want to chime in here and recognize the efforts of the people who step up to host a World Championships. The undertaking and workload is overwhelming I'm told! Fellow skiers, make sure you recognize the people who are taking on that enormous task and offer up support...or at least be sure to express your gratitude!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Barefoot Dave Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2008 at 5:33pm
I was the Chief Driver at a tourney in Philly last weekend and we were able to get in two or three rounds for most skiers. Thanks to Kevin Towers and his homebuilt SFH....and kick ass stereo Wink... on his 08 8.1 Sanger everyone had the opportunity to try it out in tournament conditions.
 
From what I saw most of them ran their first round where they normally ski (tower) and the second and/or third round on the SFH to get a feel for it and it sure seemed to have mixed reviews. I didn't ski it myself but from what I heard it seems like the folks doing tumbles in their runs like it (almost like cheating is what one guy said) but it was tougher for the folks doing toes (only saw front toes and they ALL struggled to reach the handle) and the couple guys doing turns (not impressed). I can tell you that not one person improved there score WITH the SFH but keep in mind they had never even seen one before let alone skiied with it. We'll have the same set up at the Eastern Regionals but I'd have to say everyone is making a big deal over nothing since I saw no excitement in the eyes of the competitors that tried it....just acceptance that they had a choice.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote I12 Foot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2009 at 1:04am

I have not heard it from an official source but I have heard that the SFH has been approved by the WBC for tournament use.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mike Holt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2009 at 2:33am
I was in the WBC meetingwhen the SFH was approved to be used in all tournaments, both RC and Standing list, however, it will not be REQUIRED to be supplied by the tournament director. This goes into effect Monday February 2, 2009. The vote was 7 to 1 for approval.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote I12 Foot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2009 at 12:02pm
Holtzy, you were my source, since you are not on the WBC I did not want to say it was official but I knew that if it came from you that it was accurate.
 
I am enjoying your BLOG about the World's and you seem to be the only one that is posting any information as to what is currently happening.  I hope your shoulder is holding up and good luck for the remainder of the tournament.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Foot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2009 at 7:12pm
Holtzy is correct.. The SFH is now OK for SL and RC tournaments.. NOT required but as an option, just like the tower for tower starts
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Originally posted by jannypan jannypan wrote:

I would like all tournament organizers to track some data. Maybe I will create a standard spreadsheet template for that.
 
Data on what ? And why ? It's approved....
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